Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: Tupac Shakur - New Unreleased Track - Hurts The Most
"Some people say I was a thug and a gangsta. Other people remember me as a poet and a born leader. But I'm saying to you measure a man by his actions fully, through his whole life, from the beginning to the end."
This thread is to discuss the life & times of hip-hop's most prolific artist; Tupac Shakur. This thread is covers the life, music, movies, poetry, and all other countless Tupac endeavors. Feel free to post rare Tupac interviews, songs, famous pictures, quotes, and / or anything related to Shakur. There is so much Tupac info to be listed, but I will try not to clog the title page with too much information.
Discography: 1991-2006 Studio:
2Pacalypse Now: Nov. 1991 - Gold
Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z.: Feb. 1993 - Platinum
Me Against The World: March 1995 - 2x Platinum
All Eyez On Me: Feb. 1996 - 10x Platinum
Don Killuminati (The 7 Day Theory): Nov. 1996 - 5x Platinum
"The same crime element that white people are scared of black people are scared of. While they waiting for legislation to pass, we next door to the killer. All them killers they let out, they're in that building. Just because we black, we get along with the killers? What is that? We need protection too."
Posthumous Releases
R U Still Down? (Remember Me): Nov. 1997 - 4x Platinum
Until The End Of Time: March 2001 - 5x Platinum
Better Dayz: Nov. 2002 - 5x Platinum
Loyal To The Game: Nov. 2004 - Platinum
Pac's Life: Nov. 2006 - Gold
Another Tupac album is scheduled to be released in 2009-2010 featuring 13 unreleased tracks.
"It's not like I idolize this one guy Machiavelli. I idolize that type of thinking where you do whatever's gonna make you achieve your goal." Compilations / Collaborations:
Thug Life: Volume 1 - Sept. 1994 Gold
Greatest Hist: Nov. 1998 - 10x Platinum
Tupac & The Outlawz / Still I Rise: Dec. 1999 - Platinum
The Rose That Grew From Concrete: Oct. 2000
Nu Mixx Klazzics: Oct. 2003 - Gold
Resurrection Soundtrack: Nov. 2003 - Platinum
2Pac Live: Aug. 2004
The Rose, Volume 2: Oct. 2005
Live At The House Of Blues: Oct. 2005
Tupac Beginnings, The Lost Tapes (1988-1991): June 2007
Nu Mixx Klazzics, Volume 2: Aug. 2007
Best Of 2Pac (Thug & Life): Dec. 2007
"You grow, we all grow, we're made to grow. You either evolve or disappear."
Shakur is considered to be the best selling rap artist in history, with his sales accumulating to over 80 million.
Tupac's Movie Thread Filmography + Gross Revenue
Juice: Jan. 1992 - $20,146,880
Poetic Justice: July 1993 - $27,515,786
Above The Rim: March 1994 - $6,500,000+
Bullet: Oct. 1996 - ???
Gridlock'd: Jan. 1997 - $5,000,00+
Gang Related: Oct. 1997 - $5,906,773
Tupac Resurrection: July 2003 - $7,700,00+
Live 2 Tell: TBA - ???
Unreleased Tupac track feat. Stretch, Expected on upcoming June 2010 LP
Hellrazor1978 analyzes the 1996 Tupac Opus; Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory
I know its long over due, but the wait is over!! Like the album itself was in 1996, Hellrazor brings you the much anticipated review of Tupac Shakur's swan song, Makaveli: The 7 Day Theory. Before I start the review itself though, I will be doing this the same style as I did MATW: with an analysis of the albums content, nature and the circumstances surrounding its creation. I will then follow with a track by track review of each song. So lets get this started.
August 1996. The east/west coast feud is at an all time high, and Pac's monster, star-studded double cd All Eyez on Me is tearing up the charts and has been certified 6x platinum. By now, he is clearly the biggest star rap music has ever seen, as well as the most controversial. His murder just a month ahead would send shockwaves throughout the industry and would cement his status as a true legend, in which hundreds of posthumous songs would be released later. But what was Pac doing in the weeks before his tragic death? He was working on two movies, Gridlock'd and Gang Related, as well as a new album which was completed just before his death. That album is the subject of this review, the 7 Day Theory. The album was released November 5th, 1996 to much anticipation, and it would easily shoot to #1 by selling over 700,000 copies in its first week, and eventually 5 million in the States.
The album is a complete 180 from All Eyez on Me. Gone are the star studded guest appearances and famous producers. The club songs are pretty minimal. And the overall mood and sound of the album is MUCH darker then anything he had ever written before. The album is almost like an exorcism of pent up rage and frustration, yet it also features some of his most compelling writing and subject matter ever. Almost all the songs are extremely dark in tone, its almost like MATW but on steroids. Pac has often been criticized for being a "simple" lyricist, but on this album there is strong signs he was becoming more lyrical, seen on tracks like Hail Mary, Blasphemy, Me and My Girlfriend, and Bomb First. Also, his voice is deeper and his growl meaner then on any of his previous albums, on some songs it sounds like he is rapping so furious his guts are ready to explode. The album starts with the extremely intense Bomb First, which is almost like his war song, calling out all his enemies by name and just basically letting them know ITS ON. But for all its rage and "extreme venom", there is much reflective material on this album too, such as on "Krazy" (almost like Life Goes on Part 2?), White Mans World (return to his political roots), Blasphemy (a totally new topic where Pac talks about the corruption of mankind through religion), and Just Like Daddy. The 7 Day Theory is a very controversial album even today. Not just for its depiction of Pac being crucified on the cover like Jesus, but its detractors feel the album is too angry and negative, while those who phrase it say its a brilliantly executed album that captures an amazing artist in his prime. I tend to go with the latter, I really love this album almost as much as MATW. While not quite as reflective, one must remember what he had been through since the former album and the making of this one. The production is very different and unique, its not your typical standard west coast g-funk album. The beats are very grimy and dark, even chilling, like on the albums most famous cut, Hail Mary. This song would go on to become one of the most loved and revered songs he ever made. The dark bassline with its eerie church bells and his dark prophetic songwriting made this song an instant masterpiece. Truly, this was an album that captured a man on the edge of sanity trying to find himself, and its clear by these recordings he had lost all hope and he knew his time had come. It comes as no surprise it was completed in 7 days. This album is brilliant, mysterious, dark, chilling, and emotional all at the same time. This was to be his last album sadly, but what a last album it was. Illmatic is possibly the greatest debut rap album ever, but this album is without any doubt the greatest swan song of the entire rap genre, and by a large margin. No other MC went out at the top of his game, and at such a young age with so much promise and potential as Pac did. I will now review each track:
Bomb First: Starts of off with newscaster talking about the east/west beef, and u can hear the bassline in the background building up. Right from the start, u can already tell this is going to be a very intense and dark album. Its explodes with 6 gun shots of Pac in a rage, then on the 7th gun shot his verse begins. The beat samples Naughty by Natures "Uptown Anthem", but this track is much darker. Pac produced much of the beat and in general he had a huge hand in the production of this album.
Hail Mary: Simply one of the most legendary recordings in rap music history. In some ways, this song is even more epic then So Many Tears, and I dont say this easily. But the beats, lyrics, everything about this song is on another level. Pac was clearly on some new shit. "I aint a killa but dont push me/revenge is like the sweetest joy next to gettin pu$$y, picture paragraphs being unloaded/wise words being quoted, peep the weakness in the rap game and sowed it"......its easy to see he was starting to turn into a more technical MC as well, this line was just one of many that hinted his lyrical game was up a notch as well.
Toss It Up: If this album has any weakness, its probably this song. Clearly it is misplaced on this album but supposedly Suge wanted it on there to give the album a more marketable feel so it wasnt a totally dark and gritty album. Its not a bad song, but certainly would have been more appropriate on AEOM, though of course this song wasnt made till several months later. The beat samples Black Streets "No Diggity" and was done as a mock to Dr. Dre who produced it. Dre is also dissed directly at the end of the song, lol.
To Live & Die In LA: The sequel to the huge hit CA Love (w/o gay ass Dre), lol. This track has a nice feel good cruising type sound to it, though even here there is a background tension. Samples a famous Prince song, I think it was "Do Me Baby", and overall its much more introspective on life in the City of Angels then "California Love" was. Pac almost takes you on a journey with him through LA during the song, and the video for it was done perfect, with shots of various places in LA, including the infamous Crenshaw area. This was the final single from the album as well.
Blasphemy: This is one of the primary songs which standout and make this album so loved by many. Its similiar to Hail Mary in sound, but lyrically, this track might be even sicker. Pac talks about the corruption of man and the evil doings of using religion as a block to hide them. His lyrical game is at its best here, with countless quotables. Prince Ital Joe gives the song an almost reggae feel on the chorus, which gives the song an even more unique sound. This is one of the best songs ever made I think, nothing short of perfect and has to be a top 10 jewel in Pac's catalog. The first time I heard this song, my jaw about fell off.
Life of An Outlaw: A nice guitar beat with some blusey type bass, this song doesnt break any new ground on the content side of things, but for those who like classic hardcore Pac, he delivers it in spades here. Pretty much a war song though it doesnt call out anyone in particular. The Outlawz verses are decent but this is one of the complaints about this album, some feel they were on the cd too much, and indeed they have 3 verses on this track. But still a very dope song all around. EDI's verse is probably the strongest after Pac's. One can only notice that this beat is very similiar to the one used on "High Speed", which appeared on the Still I Rise posthumous album.
Just Like Daddy: The woman positive song on the album. Its not on the same level as Keep Ya Head Up or Dear Mama, but its good still. Pretty much a song about a woman who never had a father figure, and it has a sorta sad feel but there is an underlying tension here as well. Pac should have spit one more verse on it, and it would have been a bit better.
Krazy: This song is incredible. Pac really opens up here, much in the same way as he did on Life Goes On, but this song has perhaps an even sadder feel. The piano driven beat, accopanied by a sick electric violin like instrument, gives this song a real tragic feel, and then Pac's brilliant songwriting and emotion make this one a real tear jerker. This is one of the standout songs on the album, and possibly in his career as well. Bad Azz makes a great guest appearance as well and drops probably his best verse ever. All in all if u dont like this song, there is something wrong with you, nuff said.
White Mans World: Another brilliant track, this one is about racism and growing up struggling as a minority. This is akin to the songs on his earlier albums, but with better production to back it. The verses show a desperate, sad, almost lost Tupac on here....he wrote this song for his sister as almost an apology to her and his mom. The interludes between verses with Malcolm X speaking really give the song that extra push too, and it turns out to be one of the best and most deep songs hes ever wrote. The beat is very mellow and sad, not as dark as the other records. "Sister sorry for the pain that I caused your heart, i know ill change if you help me but dont fall apart".....very powerful record.
Me And My Girlfriend: This track is one of the most troubling, and brilliant, on the album. Inspired by Nas's track "I Gave U Power", Pac makes his own version of a guns viewpoint. But where Nas was the gun, this track describes the gun as being a woman as the metaphor!! Absolutly brilliant. While not quite as lyrical as Nas's version, this song does an excellent job at concealing what its real concept was. Most people when they first heard the song, thought it was literally about a woman, but of course it isnt And thats the brilliance behind the songs concept. There are more classic lines to take in and snort here then in a coke house. On top of that, Pac raps with such conviction and emotion (nothing new, but still) to top it off. And the production?? Mind shattering. One of the most wicked and dark basslines ever, with a very very dark spanish guitar added in. This is one of the best beats ive ever heard, right up there with any that Dre, RZA, or Primo produced. And the producer of it, ironically, was Pac himself. Well, not entirely, but he wrote the concept and sound of it. One of my fav songs ever, no question.
Hold Ya Head: Another great track, very underrated too. Love the piano loop in this one. This is kind of like It Aint Easy part 2, but more raw, dark, and aggressive. Pac raps very fast and hard on the second verse, it sounds like hes ready to bust a lung or something. Like the 3 previous songs, this one is a absolute classic and one of the gems on this album.
Against All Odds: The final track, is one of the most controversial and explicit diss songs ever made, the realest shit he ever wrote!!! I like almost all the artists dissed in this song, but make no mistake about it, its clear Pac had had enough and the gloves were now off. In many ways, this song is more serious even then Hit Em Up, though not as shocking. Its such a shame though, that Pac wasnt able to reconcile with them, and even more tragic in that he was killed just weeks after this songs creation. The exception of course was Nas, who had met Pac at the MTV awards just prior to his shooting in Vegas. Pac and him were civil and he was gonna remove the disses toward him from this song, but it never happened cause Pac was killed. The beat is very dark and menacing, and fits the track perfectly. "probably be murder for the shit that I said, I bring the real, be a legend, breathin or dead"......so true, so sad, and so prophetic at the same, is that quote. RIP Pac.....we love you, and we love this album. I do anyway....
Pac's final album completes his trio of classic albums, and it can even be argued as being his best (I personally give the title to MATW, but by the narrowest of margins), as well as one of the best albums ever seen in hip hop history. Will there ever be another album as dark, emotional, powerful, well written, and mysterious/controversial as this one?? Probably not. Its such a shame we didnt get to see what was next, if this album was any indication to the direction he was taking, dude was going to SHUT THE RAP GAME DOWN. Makaveli is epic on the same level that the 90's Chicago Bulls were for basketball, Return of the King is for fantasy, etc. If All Eyez on Me didnt get him the crown, this album most certainly did.
5/5 masterpiece; the raw passion, sick innovative production and overall epic feel as well as the albums unique circumstances make this work as legendary as its creator.
Earliest Tupac Recordings Surface In Upcoming Album
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Thirteen years after his death, Tupac Shakur’s first Hip-Hop recordings will now become available through a forthcoming album entitled Shakurspeare. The project is the brainchild of Darrin Keith Bastfield, CEO of Born Busy Records. Bastfield was one of Shakur’s early collaborators, and the two formed a group together called Born Busy when a 16-year old Tupac first began to rap. For long-time fans, the album will offer the first glimpses of Tupac’s Hip-Hop journey, back when he was known by his first rap name of MC New York. "I was there when Tupac heard himself for the first time rapping on a recording. As he sat in the cafeteria of the Baltimore School for the Arts it was as if he
couldn’t believe that he was listening to himself,” Bastfield told AllHipHop.com. “Just as Tupac was quietly amazed by
hearing himself, I want people to hear Tupac as a young artist in his very first recordings ever having fun, rapping about issues that concerned us, and most importantly giving a cautionary and timely ‘Message of Peace’ in his own voice as if he was already a big rap star with a reputation to uphold.” The title Shakurspeare is an allusion to a conversation between Bastfield and a 17 year-old Shakur, where the aspiring emcee revealed that he dreamed of
becoming as renowned Shakespearean actor. The LP cover will illuminate this motif by having a Bastfield oil painting
depicting Shakur as Shakespeare. "This project was a very spiritual undertaking for me, but most importantly it is about creating art and being educational. The vocals to the songs we wrote were all recorded accapella in 1988 on a cassette tape,” Bastfield explained. “Through technology the vocals were able be extracted, digitally mastered, and put to contemporary music that was produced in 2008. I wanted to keep the recordings as close to the vein of our ideas from back in the day. As far as new material to assist with the concept of the album as being like an audio documentary, I chose to work with producers and artists in my own backyard which are native of Baltimore, Maryland which includes International Jazz recording artist Maysa. My life and times with Tupac Shakur all happened in Baltimore, so I wanted the spirit of the Shakurspeare album, just as the book, to stay consistent.”
The new album will mark Bastifield’s second Tupac Shakur project. In 2002, he released the book Back in the Day: My Life and Times with Tupac Shakur through One World/Ballantine. At press time, Shakurspeare will be released digitally on September 13 through Born Busy Records.
An unreleased Tupac Shakur diss song called "War Gamez" has landed online and features the late emcee calling out Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, Nas, Mobb Deep and more.
Heard a capella, the track also features Pac's rap group, The Outlawz.
"N*ggas playing deadly motherf*cking war games," Pac says in the intro. "How many broke down rappers got some sh*t to say...I bust on Bad Boy, Mobb Deep and murder The Firm/When you scream 'fake thugs' who the f*ck you mean/Get more C.R.E.A.M. than all of y'all/N*gga f*ck your team/Now Dre wanna switch sides/Tricks hide in war/Last year I shed tears but I don't cry no more/Plus Jay-Z tried to play me/He won't last long/Go ask King Sun how it feel to have your a** gone...Got shot five times, got outta jail on bail and sold five million. Sold more records than all you trick motherf*ckers put together. More than The Firm, more than Bad Boy, murdered Mobb Deep, more than all you b*tch made n*ggas." ("War Gamez")
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:23 am Post subject:
Happy to be the first on the page i am a die fan of pac i wasnt old enough to hear his music when he was alive but my older brother was the one who always had pac in my ears and i personally think pac was a ghetto prophet taken away very early. I am a big fan in a couple weeks getting one of his quotes that i live by everyday tattoed and i will be on this theard 24/7. RIP Tupac Amaru Shakur.
* The Quote.You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks,
even months over-analyzing a situation;
trying to put the pieces together, justifying what
could've, should've, would've, happened. Or you can just
leave the pieces on the floor and move the fcuk on
As you can see avy is Pac and sig i have another good qoute by tupac.
Great theard!!!! _________________
Happy to be the first on the page i am a die fan of pac i wasnt old enough to hear his music when he was alive but my older brother was the one who always had pac in my ears and i personally think pac was a ghetto prophet taken away very early. I am a big fan in a couple weeks getting one of his quotes that i live by everyday and i will be on this theard 24/7. RIP Tupac Amuru Shakur.
* The Quote.You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks,
even months over-analyzing a situation;
trying to put the pieces together, justifying what
could've, should've, would've, happened. Or you can just
leave the pieces on the floor and move the fcuk on
As you can see avy is Pac and sig i have another good qoute by tupac.
Great theard!!!!
Thanks for the props
Hopefully this thread will kick, because from what I see most people on this site were either too young to listen to Pac, or have a love / hate opinion for him. _________________ PM me if you're an Up & Coming Rapper / Singer / Producer!
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:34 am Post subject:
^Your very right. I am only 16 but if you ask me anything about 'Pac its on. lol But yeah plus lots of people love Biggie or East Coast rapper (No dissing) but Tupac was imo The Best Rapper to ever lay a track down. Dont get me wrong Biggie was a crazy with his lyrics but Pac talked about real crap that happend in those days and that still happens now.
Plus his acting was unbeatable blow me away in Juice, Poetic Justice, Gang Related and Above the Rim. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:13 am Post subject:
So far its a Great Theard!!!
Tupac's "Enemy's" or "Rivals"
Biggie Smalls
Mobb Deep
Junior Mafia
Nas
Jay-Z
Believe it or not Eminem
Chino XL
Bad Boy's Records/ Puff Daddy A.k.a P.Diddy
Lil Kim
Dr.Dre
Wendy Williams - Was the girl who said Pac got rapped in jail
LL Cool J
Dan Quayle - Was Vice President and Said 2paclypse was not good for society
The Fugees
C Delores Tucker - African American Activist that said pac's music was Pornographic and violent. _________________
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