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 Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:35 am Post subject: AIR JORDAN GUIDE: I-XX3 - update 3/2/09 Air Jordan I ~dalazz |
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Well, we've started it. Again, this is a work in progress. Updates will come at any time. I'll be working on it over the next couple of weeks, trying to get all the info we have in this forum about Jordans in here.
Thanks to everyone that has helped over the years, and to anyone that helps in the future.
This is going to be locked, so if you have info that isn't on here, PM one of the Mods that work in here and we'll get it up.
Air Jordan I
Air Jordan III
Air Jordan IV
Air Jordan V 8/7/07 - hAPPY
Air Jordan VII
Air Jordan VIII
Air Jordan XI
Air Jordan XIII - 10-25-05
Air Jordan XVIII
Edit 1/20/07 by MZ3- So, it's been a long ass time since anyone worked on this. I'm going to start updating this as much as possible. But, I will need help. If you have some info I missed or something new, please PM me so I can get it in here. I am going to go through each shoe and at least put a few notes in each. Some may not have anything in it right now.
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Air Jordan I
Updated by dalazz - 3/2/2009
Things to look for:
-The overall shape and/or cut of the sneaker.
-The stitching on the panels.
-Fake Air Jordan I's usually evolve around the mid-cut version of the sneaker.
-Most fake AJI's incorporate a boxy and/or short toe-box.
-Fake boxes are often made of a thin grade of car-board, and you can see the 'ribbing' of the card-board.
Known Production Factories/Dates:
**The colors not listed are listed as N/A. i.e.- White/Metallic Purple, White/Metallic Red, White/ Metallic Orange.
1985 Originals
- Black/Red
- 850709 TY1
- 850810 TY1
- 850911 TY
- 850911 BY
- White/Black-Red
- 850204 TY1
- 850305 TY1
- 850507 TY1
- 850810 BY
- Black/Royal
- 851012 TH
- 851101 TY
- 851202 BY
- 850911 TY1
- 850911 BY
-White/Grey
- 850204 TY1
- 850305 BY
- 850406 BY
- 850709 BY
- 850810 SY-1
- 850911 SY-1
- 850911 ST-P
- 851202 ST-P
-White/Metallic Blue (High)
- 850709 TH
- 860810 TY1
-White/Metallic Green
- 850810 TY1
-White/Metallic Blue (Low)
- 851202 TY
-White/Grey (Low)
- 851202 TY
-White/Red (Low)
- 851202 TY
1994 Retro's
-Black/Red
- 940911 Y3 China
- 941012 Y3 China
- 941101 Y2 China
- 941101 Y3 China
-White/Black-Red
- 940911 Y3 China
- 941012 Y3 China
2001 Retro's
-Black/Varsity Red
- 010507 Y3 China
-Black/Varsity Royal Blue-White
- 010709 Y2 China
- 010709 PC8 Taiwan
-White/Metallic Silver-Midnight Navy
- 010507 Y3 China
- 010709 PC8 Taiwan
-Neutral Grey/Silver-White
- 010709 PC8 Taiwan
2001 JAPAN Issued
- Neutral Grey/ Metallic Silver
- 001202 Y3 China
- Black/Black Metallic-Silver
- 010103 Y3 China
- White/Metallic Silver-Midnight Navy
- 010103 Y3 China
-White/White-Midnight Navy
- 010406 Y3 China
2002 Retro (Platinum)
- White/Metallic Silver
- 090911 PC8 Taiwan
2003 Retro Patent
- White/Carolina Blue
- 030608 Y3 China
- White/Black-Varsity Red
- N/A
- Black/Metallic Gold
- 030911 Y3 China
2004 Retro's
- White/White-Metallic Silver (Low)
- N/A
- White/Black-Midnight Navy
- N/A
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OLNL/BMP Package
| waldoaz wrote: | Hey guys,
Here is a guide to help you spot fake OLNL packages. Ive recieved many questions and e-mails from fellow NT'rs, ISS'rs, Flipjays'rs and from other forums in regards to the BMP. Yes, there are tons of fakes on ebay and on the streets and seeing as how peeps are getting screwed for their money I thought id make this post. Please move it if it needs to be moved. Anyways, please check and take notes of the pictures and the triggers before you buy on-line or from someone local. Remember that these are some of the best replicated Jordans as they are very simple to make. Once again, sorry if this does not belong here. Please lock if need be!
I was going to just post it on Lacesnsoles.com, but since most questions came from fellow forum members, then im just going to post it on the forums.
HERE IS A PIC OF ALL THAT WILL COME WITH THE PACKAGE! IF YOU NOTICE A KEYCHAIN THEN THEY ARE FAKE! ALSO NOTE THAT THE TISSUE THEY ARE WRAPPED IN HAS A DESIGN ON IT. IT WAS HARD TO TAKE PICTURE OF THE TISSUE, BUT IT DEFENITELY IS A GOOD WAY TO TELL IF THE SET IS LEGIT
MAKE SURE THE TOP OF THE REAR ON THE YELLOW PAIR IS MADE OF SUEDE AND THE BLACK TOE OF LEATHER!
NOT THAT THE YELLOW PAIR HAS CLEAR SOLES. ALSO NOTE HOW CLEAR THEY ARE COMPARED TO THE FAKE ONES!
YELLOW PAIR IS MADE OF YELLOW LEATHER AND SUEDE!
BLACK TOE IS MADE OF ALL LEATHER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SWOOSH ON THE SIDE!
NOTE WHAT THE TAGS SHOULD READ!
NOTE WHERE THE TAG IS LOCATED ON THE BOX!
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| dalazz wrote: | Fake 2001 I's:
Legit 2001 I's:
Fake.
-The cut of the sneaker is more of a mid cut.
-The toe-box is too short, 2001 retro's have a longer toe-box.
-The toe-box is stitched very sharply, should have a rounder sense to it.
-The Nike "swoosh" is to wide at the basin, is is on an awkward angle as well.
-The Key-Chain should have a Jumpman facing the right, not the left.
-The back portion of the midsole is cut slanting out, it should be straight.
-The toe-box is too short, and too boxy. |
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***Air Jordan II***
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***Air Jordan III***
| dalazz wrote: | Air Jordan III update:
The Circled parts depict sloppy stitching!
Fake White/Cement III's
Legit White/Cement III's
1. Notice the "ruffled" tongue. When a ruffled tongue is spotted, this is due to sloppy stitching, often found on fake sneakers.
2. The "Jordan" logo on the sole should be red, not charcoal-grey.
3. No Air Jordan III has yet to come with a Jumpman key-chain. They do not come with them.
4. The cut of the elephant print on the toe-box panel is cut too sharp. The shade of grey is also too light. Also, the leather used throughout the sneaker is wrong.
5. Besides the sloppy stitching throughout most of the sneaker, the 5 en-stitched lace holes should be red, not grey.
6. The lace holes here should be white, not black. |
| maluah wrote: | Ok.....I did some homework. Sorry for crappy picture quality, but hopefully it's "insightful". Feel free to add more if needed. The legit CDP3 picture is courtesy of SoleSeeker.
1: On CDP 3, the letter "A" is more "pointy" at the top. Also, letter "R" is more balance.
Fake 3, the letter "A" is more "square" at the top. And letter "R" is not balanced.
2: On CDP 3: the upper rubber heel is more equally cut compared to Fake 3.
3: On CDP 3: the grey outsole is more thicker than Fake 3.
4: On CDP 3, elephan print is more thicker and bolder. Also on CDP 3, it has double stitching.
1: Again, the stitching on CDP 3 is more consistent.
2: On CDP3, the elephant print is more thicker and bolder. Also, the width is not as wide as the fake one.
3: Unfortunately, the pic is not clear enough, but on CDP3, the hole pattern is lot smaller and closer to one another.
4: On CDP 3, the liner is black compared to grey color on the fake 3. This is one of the most obvious ones.
5: On CDP 3, the tounge has lighter grey color compared to fake 3. Also, the Jumpman is bigger.
The tag on CDP 3 is NOT on the tounge.
Overall, you can tell the the fake 3 has crappy stitching and leather material compared to CDP 3. |
Looking at eBay a few days ago I came accross pics of a new fake III.
Black/cement with the proper Nike Air on the heel. They are pretty close
to the authentics at first glance. Here are some of the things I found
wrong. I don't know the size of this shoe, mine is 13 with different laces in
them.
 
1- Elephant print is wrong shape and wrong material. It almost looks like
plastic. Stitching is the wrong color.
2- Any III with a Jumpman keychain/hangtag is fake, period.
3- As with all fakes, stitching is horrible. Pointed out are just 4 or like 50
places with bad stitching. Lines aren't start or curved where they are
supposed to be. Panels are off all over the shoe.
 
1- Panels and lines all over the shoe are off. With this picture you can see
the stitched line on the shoe to the left is not even close to being lined up
properly. This is the worst example on this shoe, but if you look you can
see others.
2- The collars of these are VERY off, they are too long and the wrong
shape altogether. You can see it better in the picture below.
3- Appears to be the wrong material. Looks like pleather.
4- Stars are very off. Just because they have them doesn't mean the are legit.
 
1- Tongues are not stitched together properly, giving it a bumpy, messy look.
They also appear to be a little too thick.
2- The holes in the tonue do not line up with the leather. Also the cut of
the leather doesn't appear to be smooth like it should.
3- This is the wrong shape of the collar as stated above. They stick out
way too far.
Other things-
I know I always say don't judge a fake by the box, but in the pictures
above you can see extra lines on the edges of the boxes. The retro card
looks pretty good. It's hard to see, but the holes in the grey leather pieces
don't seem to be correct. I couldn't find a picture of the tag, which
disappointed me. Or the sole. The cutouts for the Air units seem to be off
as well, one is yellow. The stitching around all the eyelets/lace loops is
off.
Needless to say, when your buying any shoe off of eBay you need GOOD pictures.
Edit 1/20/7 by MZ3- All of this is still good. Some of the fakes have better shapes, but the elephant print is still the key with these.
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***Air Jordan IV***
| dalazz wrote: | Notice the difference in the shade of yellow...
Fake Thunder IV's
Legit Thunder IV's
1. The netting panel - The netting panel on '06-'08 Retro IV models is much smaller. The netting is finer on newer models. This netting shown on the fake Thunder IV's is quite large and the little squares are bulky. The netting panel itself should be a little bigger and not as consolidated. Thunder IV's DO NOT come with a NIKE hang-tag, (nor do any '06-'08 retro's).
2. The cut of the nubuck panel right after the "wings" should not have such a sharp cut and decline towards the back. It is mis-shaped and is often a key aspect towards giving away fakes.
3. The toe-box on '06-'08 Retro IV's is longer, but even on '99-'00 retro's don't have such an abrupt stop to the toe-box. The cut of the toe-box is too short and is way too bulky.
4. The black sole that breaks through the yellow mid-sole is too round. It should have a sharper curve towards the top.
5. The overall cut of the sneaker is more of a mid cut. '06'-'08 Retro IV's are cut lower and have a longer tongue. |
These are supposed to be pictures of size 13 IV's. I stole the pics from an eBay auction. I compared them to my Retro and Original. Sorry for the big pictures, I wanted to show as much detail as possible.
*****The metal chain is just on mine, I replaced the Nike tag thing with an older style one and put it on with the chain******
 
1- The rubber that covers the mesh is lined up wrong. It should be lined up with the top of the panel, not the bottom.
Retro
Original
2- Alot of the lines or not straight, a common flaw in fakes.
3 and 4- Heal of shoe is not shaped right, should not be flat. Midsole also sticks out to far.
5- Shape angle. This picture doesn't show it very well.
6- Tag seems to be to high.
 
1- Jumpman tag is too low.
2-The detail on the sole is almost not there, which can't be seen because I had to resize the picture to make it fit in the gallery.
3- The lines are too narrow.
Over all the sole looks bad.
 
1- Again the tag is too low.
2- The sharp angle. Which is how I've been spotting fakes on eBay.
3- Wrong shape.
If you must buy IV's off ebay, make sure that you look for these things when buying. ALWAYS ask for more and better pictures.
It's better not to buy them off eBay.
eBay is turning into the biggest scam in the sneaker world!
hAPPY:
The mesh doesn't have to be exactly parallel to the lace holder wings. On legit IVs '99 (some of them), the mesh is somewhat more on leaning away (towards the toes) rather than towards the ankle or the tongue, like fakes do. Now on the '06 retros, the mesh is now angled towards the ankle, see bottom pic.
Fake IV
Retro '99
Right (outside)
Right (inside)
Left (outside)
Left (inside)
'06 IV
As you can see the mesh now is towards the ankle. But the back of the shoe still has a distictive contour outwards. In other words, the midsold SHOULD not stick out further than the heel counter.
Hope this helps. 
Edit 1/20/7 by MZ3- Most of this is still good. A few changes have been made to the fakes. The makers of fakes are trying to put the contour on the ass of the shoe, it still isn't right. they basically make a large, round shape. If you look close, this isn't the shape of the heal/ass of a legit IV. The rubber netting they use is larger than the real thing.
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****Air Jordan V****
By hAPPY and SkyHigh23
Thanks to ISS member SkyHigh23 for providing the fake pics (he received the fake V as a birthday gift).
These latest versions are close to the authentic Vs, but if you look closely, they're not quite there yet.
Fake Vs are the same in Black or the white colorway.
The first 3 details are the most obvious parts of the shoe that separates fakes from authentics.
First off, the soles:
If it's DS or never worn, it should be crystal clear, but not too clear. Fakes have hazy soles and poor quality paints.
 
 
Back:
The most obvious part of the shoe is the Nike logo, fakes have smaller logos. When asking sellers for addtional pics, this part should be asked.
 
Tag:
Pics speaks for itself. Wrong tag fonts. A pic of the tag should be asked from the sellers too.
 
Tongue:
Take a closer look at the texture of the tongue, authentics have finer grains. It's like comparing a Sony plasma HDTV to a 1985 sony trinitron screen.
 
Side:
The toe box will always be consistent in difference in form. The fire, not always (not the best indicator for determining fakes). Lastly, take note of the ankle lace hole, fakes have bigger holes.
 
 
Lace Locks:
Fakes have clearer plastics.
 
Here's another abvious difference. If you can get a pic of the insole from the seller, it'll surely help. Thanks to ISS member Dips3tRydah for providing the pics.
 
*Additional pics by ISS member R3 - hAPPY 9/30/05
here is a fake at the top. ive cut out what i think is fake about them, not to mention the black specked dots obviously being fake.
the bottom pic is that a fake or legit as it looks different?? both shoes are from the same pair - shoes are fake - hAPPY.
*Thanks to ISS member J345kindaguy for the info - hAPPY 8/7/07
| Quote: | To make a long story short a friend of mine that doesn't know much about shoes happened to see me wearing my Caro V's and he liked them so much he took it upon himself to buy a pair off of ebay. Of course not being a shoe head, he didn't realize there was a fake market for shoes. ( I had to convince him his shoes were fake) LOL..but anyway, I took some shots of my real pair next to his fake pair so that others that don't know the shoe well can learn from his mistakes.
Aside from what I took pictures of. The shoe box for his fake pair was very small (fake boxes always are)
Jumpman on fake tongue has 4 fingers instead of a palm and thumb
Lace Lock has a Nike Logo on the fake pair and the real pair has a
jumpman logo on it
Real Tag
Fake Tag
Real Tongue
Fake Tongue : They must have cut that while they were drunk....lol
Real Sole
Fake Sole : Blue is darker here and on the rest of the shoe
Real Outer Side View
Fake Outer Side View: Where is the tongue? hehe, short like in all fake V's
Real Inner Side View
Fake Inner Side View
Rear View Comparison
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| solesaver23 wrote: | Phase2 amazing collection of 1's posted over at NT .. 
My contibution
Fake V's
Legit V's
Comparing them :
Fakes are claimed DS[BrandNew] If so they are they should be clear not pre yellowed.
Take a look on the legit pair they are Ds and clear ICEY soles.
I dint find a good picture on the back jumpman but you can see it is way to small..Compare the location/size and the location on the fakes to legit pair.
Fakes Tongue: Take alook it should be blue not purple , it should be higher like on the legit pair.
Midosole Fakes : Should be blue'ish not purple...
Know your box and card should Look like this No Exception , Unless B-Grades.. I work for nike BTW  |
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***Air Jordan VI***
Updated 1/7/09 by dalazz
| Silencer wrote: |
I had a day off and always wanted to know (with my own eyes) were the difference is between fake and OG. 
I dont know what you think of this but I wanted you to be part 
I HATE FAKES like the upcoming VI infras  :evil: :evil:
I bought the sports blues  to destroy them someday and look into the air system.
The sports blues were screwed ahead of this so dont hate on me for doin this. There would have been NO way of recovering them again.
The used VI infras were bought b/c of the lacelocks and once they were at my place I realized that they are fakes. I told the seller that he was wearing and selling fakes. He didnt give a sh*t like the nike counterfeit apartment in another case I informed counterfeit@nike.com about.
| Email from counterfeit@nike.com wrote: | | Thank you for the information concerning the sale of possible counterfeit Nike products. Please be advised that Nike does not offer any rewards or compensation for information. Nike is not able to authenticate products or assist you in receiving a refund or exchange. Nike is not able to provide information or status concerning potential legal matters. Thank you for your understanding |
Make a long story short. Here we go:
The "Air" System. Fake ones only got holes in hard foam. Real ones got a nice "air" cushion in front and in back
The Air Systems. Compare the Front ones and the back ones.
The fakes Air system from the inside and the real air cushion from the sports infront
Last but not least the tongue. The holes, shape and popper differ
Okay, hope you never saw something like this before...
Hope you arent too much.
@ dalazz and mj234eva thanks for your support |
| Filipinoise wrote: | Here's my contribution: Air Jordan Retro+ VI's Blk/Infared '99.
*Feel free to add pictures of the fake jordan shoe box and size tag, I couldn't really find any.. Sorry.
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IDENTIFYING FAKE AIR JORDAN VI: BLACK/DEEP INFA RED (1999-2000 release)
By: Filipinoise
FAKE AIR JORDAN VI'S
*PLEASE NOTE: the #6 picture is for the fake air jordan vi size tag, I don't have any pictures.
#6, see below. (fake size tag)
1. The midsole colors are way too glossy. First sign of fakes, one of the easiest to determine. Shoes are very glossy in any type of light, whether it be the flash from a camera to natural, bright sunlight.
2. The air bubble is red. Real air bubbles are white (or off white, not completely sure), not red.
3. Back of the shoes. Since they were never re-retroed, the latest release was '99-'00, so they don't have a Jumpman air sign on the back. For a ebtter view check out picture #10.
4. Soles are WAY too icy and clear, sometimes they're shiny. FAKES.
5. Picture of a fake retro card. Sometimes they're hard to see the differences, but the material used, etc. is all fake.
6. FAKE AIR JORDAN VI INFARED SIZE TAG. PLEASE ADD PICTURES.
7. Fake air Jordan VI tongue. The tongue is black, not red.
8. Another fake sole, the part that is red is supposed to be black. The black jumpman has to be red, not black. Also see the extremely icy and shiny soles.
9. Another fake retro card. The white border should be black.
10. NOTE: THIS PICTURE WAS TAKEN FROM THE CDP CARMINE VI'S. This is how the fake black infared back side looks like. However, since this was from a different shoe, the red jumpman is normally black no the fake VI's. The real back size should have a black Nike Air sign on the back.
REAL PICTURES:
*colors are not TOO shiny, perfect balance in the lighting. Color isn't red, it's infared, that's why it's somewhat lighter.
*NIKE AIR on the back, not some variant jumpman air thing on the back.
*Clear soles, not extremely icy with a blue tint or shiny soles, etc.
*real retro card
*real size tag, other possibilities with the factory codes are:
000406 LN3 China, 000608 LN3 China
*ANYONE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD PICS OF A FAKE SIZE TAG (at #6), THANKS. |
| solesaver23 wrote: | Fake Olympic 6's
Legit pair
Lets start , well not much to say .
Uhm the fake pair the sole should NOT have a bluetint at all .. Thats a NO-NO.
The lace lock should have a Gold Jumpman also no exception.
The boxes may have many confused but dont fall for that crap if you cannot get a picture of the box tag I would recomment dont buy/this goes for the size tag also.
99.9% There fakes No AJ should have bluetint soles..
Know the size tag 
It should Read of UPC not PAT ..
If the shoe Nike/Jordan came out in the year 05 it shoud mostlikely read US5 Or Us then anumber if it is 04 and before it should read PAT and the production date should touch barcode.. So stay away .
Your not shure if Fake or Legit 
Make a legit check , you end up having a better buying expirience .
Piece
Much thanks for Kix_R_Us |
| solesaver23 wrote: | Up next
Carmine 6's ... [Ive seen fakes onthe web]
Fake pair
Legit pair
-Notice the fakes have a tinted blu sole / Legit Jordans Wont.
-The tongue should be placed higher .
-Swede is red not have a violet tone of swede.
-Cheap stitching on tongue/cheap lether [maybe if its lether ] ... Notice the ankle part. |
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***Air Jordan VII***
Here is a guide for the fake Oly VII's, info is from me and the other members that have posted info here in other posts.
Fake VII
Legit VII
1- The shape of this curve is off. It's a shaper curve on the legit pair. This throws the entire blue panel off, the Jumpman is off(#3) the holes are bunched up(can't see in this picture).
2- The collar isn't tall enough. It also stregthes out too far forward.
3- As stated in #1, wrong position.
4- These curves are too rounded. Should be more angled.
5- Lots of things wrong here. The shape of the sole here is wrong. The shape of the contour of the ass is wrong. The triangle is placed too high, it should be lined up with the lower line in the cutout not the second.
hAPPY
6- Also, commonly fake sellers take pics of the front view. On fakes, the last 3 lace holes (near the toe box) are usually lined up straight or curved downwards (rarely).
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***Air Jordan VIII***
By Biohazard and hAPPY
1: Paint is to metallic and shiny. The surface is also to smooth.
1A: The grooves are too deep.
2: The traction grooves should be wider and higher.
3: Along the edges of the nubuck there should be a white outline (you will see in the real pic)
4:The pattern on the plastic is way off. The black makes up a good 50% of the plastic. (look at real pic for ref)
5:The back pulltab should be connected to the heel cushion, in which it is taller. The heel cushion is unseen.
ALSO: THE PRODUCTION TAG ON THESE FAKES ARE ACCURATE AND LOOK LIKE THE OG tags! I will try to provide pics later on.
Watch out for these.
By hAPPY
Take a look at the front of the shoe too.
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***Air Jordan IX***
Edit 1/20/7 by MZ3- Fakes of these are usually pretty obvious. The collar around the ankle is the best place to look. The shape around a fake is more squared then on a authentic. The sole is another place to look, I've seen them with really shape lines and detail. Much shaper then on real IXs. The coolgreys never have the right shade of grey on the patent leather.
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***Air Jordan X***
EDITED BY dalazz 1/5/09
This is to resolve any controversy regarding the set of Jumpman found on the back of the Shadow X's made in China, Korea and Taiwan:
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Ok so this is specifically for all city series Jordan X's. All city series Jordan X's should be made in Taiwan and not Korea. If you see any Jordan X's made in Korea, you have a fake.
This tag represents a fake
Legit Tag
Notice that the fake tag has the style and color code as 130209 102 00 which represents the color code of the Powder X's
The correct style and color code for Chi City X's should be 130209 108 00
| YeaNitDonStop wrote: | Steel X's Fake Guide
1 - On the real X's the lace holders are somewhat parallel to each other
On the fake X's the lace holders are not parallel
2 - The stitching is bad on the fake X's and the black on the inside of the shoe isnt suppose to reflect the light
3 - The stitching between the lace holders isnt suppose to be gray
4 - The gray is off on the fake X's |
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***Air Jordan XI***
There are atleast 99% of fake XIs on Ebay and I have received so many private legit checks on all different XIs so I decided to come out with all these info.
Basically we have 5 different Check Points
1) Carbon Fiber Spring Plate.
2) Position of Jumpman Logo.
3) Quality of Paint / Material / Laces
4) Tag Info (Most Important)
5) Box Shape / Box Label
1) Detail picture between fake / authentic Carbon Fiber Plate.
**Pic was taken from Jordan Retro XI Black/red**
*Real Carbon Fiber Plate can't be bend and its made by harden material while the fakes were easy to bend and made by soft material.*
2) All Jordan Authentic XI Carbon Fiber Plate pictures.
**Pic was taken from Jordan XI Concord**
**Pic was taken from Jordan XI Blk/Red**
**Pic was taken from Jordan XI Columbia**
**Pic was taken from Jordan XI Space Jam**
**Pic was taken from Jordan XI Cool Grey**
3) Shape of Fake / Authentic XI
Fake
Real
4) Jumpman Logo
5) Quality of Paint / Material / Laces
6) Tag Info
WHITE BLACK DARK CONCORD
Known release days and factories
000608 LN3, 000709 LN3 China, 000810 FT1 Taiwan
BLACK VARSITY RED
Known release days and factories
010911 LN3 China
WHITE UNC
Known release days and factories
001012 LN3 China, 001101 FT1 Taiwan
SPACE JAM
Known release days and factories
000608 LN3, 000709 LN3, 000810 LN3, 000911 LN3 China,
000810 FT1 Taiwan
GREY/ GREY RETRO +
Known release days and factories
001202 LN3 China
7) Box Shape / Box Label
References
1. www.air-jordans.com (tag information)
2. www.retrokid.com (Carbon plate images & tag images)
3. Ahliang119
If you have anymore questions on XIs. Please PM / Email me
Thanks.
Edit- 1/20/07 by MZ3- OK, the pics are gone. I will try to get new ones, but it may take some time. Here are the only ones I have ready-
ALWAYS look at the carbon fiber. ALWAYS get good closeups of this area.
These pics are a little older, but are a good example of what to look for. Buddha's are obviously the authentic. The fake XI's will also have straight squares that have a solid color.
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EDITED BY MJO23DAN - 9/23/08
The following info was provided by ISS user Automata:
AUTHENTIC JORDAN XI GUIDE
More than 90% of XI's are FAKE on Ebay!
In this guide, we will look at ways to separate the FAKE Jordan XI from the AUTHENTIC Jordan XI.
THE FOLLOWING WILL HELP YOU SEPARATE FAKES FROM AUTHENTICS:
1.SHAPE
2.CUT OF PATENT LEATHER
3.THE "23" ON THE BACK
4.CARBON FIBER PLATE
5.TAGS
We will start with the RETROCONCORD Colorway //
Here, we have a comparison of the shape.
Notice the difference in the way the Patent Leather is cut around the Toe Box Area.
The AUTHENTIC Pair is more rounded.
The FAKE Pair is squared.
This is an easy way to spot fakes.
In this Profile view, you can see that the AUTHENTIC has a Smooth ROUNDED Patent Leather.
The FAKES have sharp angles on the patent leather
Another EASY Way to tell them Apart, is the NUMBER 23 ON THE BACK
AUTHENTICS SHOULD HAVE A SPACE BETWEEN THE 2 AND 3
FAKES DO NOT HAVE THIS SPACE:
Lets Look at the Carbon Fiber Plate:
AUTHENTIC CONCORDS Have a Black Shiny Carbon Fiber Plate.
FAKES are made out of PLASTIC and are easy to spot:
HERE IS A CLOSE UP OF THE CARBON FIBER ON AUTHENTIC CONCORDS:
ALWAYS Make sure to get the INSIDE TAG of the Shoe
Here is the AUTHENTIC CONCORD TAG:
watch that there is NO space between the date and the barcode
Here is the AUTHENTIC CONCORDBOX TAG:
Here are other Ways to Spot Fake from AUTHENTIC CONCORDS:
Color of the Jumpman:
The INSOLE: Concords will ALWAYS SAY NIKE AIR
HERE WE WILL LOOK AT THE BRED XI RETRO COLORWAY //
Again, the FAKES have sharp edged Cuts on the Patent Leather:
The 23 has NO Space on the FAKES:
COMPARE THOSE WITH THESE AUTHENTIC BRED XI RETRO:
AUTHENTIC CARBON FIBER OF BRED XI RETRO:
AUTHENTIC INSOLE OF BRED XI RETRO: Notice how these are the JUMPMAN LOGO NOT NIKE AIR
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC BRED XI RETRO SHOE TAG:
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC BRED XI RETRO BOX TAG:
Now lets look at the RETRO SPACE JAM Colorway //
THE EASIEST WAY TO SPOT A FAKE SPACE JAM, IS THE STITCHING ON THE TOUNGE
AUTHENTIC SPACE JAMS READ: JUMPMAN JAM
FAKE SPACE JAMS READ: JUMPMAN JORDAN
Look here: This is what the Words should Read on an AUTHENTIC PAIR
Look at these FAKES: Notice how the tounge reads JUMPMAN JORDAN:
HERE ARE SOME AUTHENTIC SPACE JAM IMAGES TO HELP YOU:
JUST LIKE THE CONCORDS, THE SPACE JAMS HAVE BLACK CARBON FIBER:
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC SHOE TAG FOR SPACE JAMS:
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC INSOLE: NOTICE THE BLUE JUMPMAN:
HERE IS THE RETROCOOL GRAY COLORWAY //
FIRST OFF, LOOK AT THE FAKE IMAGES. BY NOW YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR:
FAKES:
AUTHENTIC COOL GRAY XI'S:
THE CARBON FIBER ON THE COOL GRAY IS SIMILAR TO THE BRED XI:
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC SHOE TAG:
HERE IS THE AUTHENTIC BOX TAG:
Hopefully this Guide will Help you spot out the Important Aspects of XI's which once again are:
--SHAPE
--CARBON FIBER
--SPACE IN THE 23
--CUT OF PATENT LEATHER
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| ***Air Jordan XII*** |
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***Air Jordan XIII***
Courtesy of ISS member aikoo. Thanks a bunch. - hAPPY
Here's a sticky on how to spot them, and those look perfect.
A little while ago, the subject of creating a guide on how to spot fake shoes was mentioned. I thought it was a great idea but I know it will take some hard work and dedication from more than one member. I'd just like to see if I can get the ball rolling. I know that the XIII is not the most popular fake Jordan by far but you have to start somewhere.
Picture credits: Retrokid and Jordanextreme.com; I took some of these without permission for the intent of educating fellow NT'ers, however I will take them down at the request of the owners.
On a side note, I am looking for more reliable image hosting than Image Shack / Photobucket, a service that can host super high quality images. If you have access to one holla at me at tekkaboy@hotmail.com.
On with the show...
The most common fake XIII colorways are the White/True Red-Black and the White/Black/True Red-Pearl Grey. The other colorways are also around, but are easier to spot as fakes and are not as numerous. Here are some of the most common flaws found on fake XIII's:
1) Here we have a seemingly real pair of White/True Red-Black XIII's. However notice the top two lace holes have circles around them; real XIII's don't.
Real
2) Looking at the back of the shoe, the real XIII's bottom section of leopard print is full of circles and ends in a more stubby fashion than the fakes; the fakes' leopard print area tails off and is longer without circles. Also, the top of the fake shoe climbs too high on the inner side; the inner and outer side should be almost level with each other.
Real
3) Here's a view of the top of the shoe. You can see that the inner side of the shoe next to the laceholders is thicker than it should be. Also, the two white leopard print sections that hold the laceholders are way too straight. I've never seen a pair of XIII's that straight in my life.
REAL
4) Take a look at the soles. On the real XIII's there is visible red paint in between the white herringbone sections and the black strips, almost a purposeful imperfection. The fakes don't have these; also, the green jumpman circle is a little too neon.
REAL
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Jordan Retro Altitude XIII - Authentic vs Fake - By Ahliang119
http://www.issforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=129119
Top - Fake
Bottom - Authentic.
Explanation - See the length and wide of the each tissue paper.
Fake Jordan XIII Altitude Box
Authentic Jordan XIII Altitude Box
Both boxes are Sz10 but look at the top of the picture. Fake box has shorter length.
Top - Fake
Bottom - Authentic
Explanation - Look closely at the tag info / font and box shape/length.
Left - Authentic Box
Right - Fake
Explanation - Look closely at the surface of the box.
Top - Authentic Retro Card
Bottom - Fake Retro Card.
Explanation - Look Closely at the color.
Legit Altitude
Fake Altitude
Left - Fake
Right - Authentic
Last Picture - Who can tell me which pair is authentic and which is fake.
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| ***Air Jordan XIV*** |
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